Squealing and moaning A12

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Squealing and moaning A12

Postby cAPSLOCK » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:38 am

I have had a pair of A12 pres for several years and they have been wonderful.

Recently I moved the unit to another rack.

After the move one A12 would develop a high pitched sound after being on for a while. Any gain knob change would crackle and temporary calm the squealing, but would also make whooshing sounds and sometimes start up a low oscilating tone.

The top voltage regulator (LM317 i think) would get hot as hell.

I reflowed everything on the PC board and no change seems to have happened.

What next? Go slow... I am dumbish. ;)
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Postby tpryan » Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:31 am

Try re-seating the op-amp in the socket. Is the op-amp getting warm as well? What are the DC voltages at pins 3, 5, and 6?
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Postby cAPSLOCK » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:18 am

Reseating the opamp was the fix it seems.

Thanks so much!
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Postby cAPSLOCK » Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:04 am

However....

The heat sink on the top regulator is still hot as heck. Do I need to take it out and measure what you asked about?
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Postby tpryan » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:51 am

The regulator should not be "hot as heck". Measuring the DC voltages should shed some light.
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Postby cAPSLOCK » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:11 pm

OK. First of all, a note to my fellow electronics neophytes:

Make sure your multimeter's battery is not weak. It may give you false readings if it is. :)

I believe I have isolated the problem to a SC25 op amp.

The voltages are stable at:
3 : 18v
5 : 18v
6 : 0v

But the op amp and the heat sinks get hot when it is left on. Also the Cinemag transformer gets overly warm.

After checking over and over for shorts, cold joints etc, and doing a few little touch ups here and there I finally decided to try to move the SC25 from my other A12 to this one. It works like a charm, stays cool to the touch and passes audio just like it used to. I left it on for an hour. I didn't heat up.

I then put in a Hardy 990C (I didn't want to leave it in long as I believe the voltages for this opamp are supposed to be lower.) Slightly warm, but still fine.

Then I put the old (suspected to be broken) SC25 into the OTHER, previously working A12. It exhibited the same exact symptoms (noise and heat after warming up) at first, then the power supply went dark.

Removing the suspect SC25 everything is fine again. Placing that opamp into either A12 will cause the whole box not to power up. Using the other SC25 and the Hardy 990c works fine and swapping them between A12s works too.

So, I suppose my question is if the SC25 has any sort of warranty? :)

I plan to order a WH01KA wire harness anyway and I suppose I will need another SC25 to go with it.
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Postby tpryan » Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:08 am

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